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Episode reviews for Episode 10.24 - A New Position For Roz

Avg. Viewer Review: 59.6%
Number of Reviews: 5

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Is that why he's on his knees?, May 26, 2013

Reviewer: Sammy J from Melbourne, Australia

After reviewing ten full seasons of "Frasier", this one is perhaps the toughest review. I'm honestly just not sure what I think.

Let's start with the good stuff, as there are some fun moments for most of the cast. I like Martin's outrage that he's being undervalued even though he DOES spend all his money on fast food and beer. And there are some classic Frasier Crane moments such as his passionate love for the film "Noch Einen Stuhl"

Daphne and Niles decide the time is right to start trying for a baby, again showing this series' interest in how such a thing comes about rather than just pandering to ratings with a surprise pregnancy. I'm actually surprised this wasn't more of a core conflict, since Niles is older and on his second marriage; it makes sense that his longing for a child would be more prominent than Daph's. Yet, it's great that this couple - who have been so in sync all season after some of their trials in seasons 8 and 9 - quickly get on the same page. After a couple of episodes where she was written as a bit of a dill and a harpy, Gertrude finishes season 10 in style. I don't know which is my favourite moment: her "secret menu" at Nervosa? The sexual phone call with Julia, or her awkward "Helloooo" afterward? Probably the great line, "Help Auntie Gert find her cigarettes and you can have one". It reminds me of the character as originally conceived. The final scene in which Gert and Daphne reunite is really quite sweet. It allows for the narrative to write Mrs. Moon out as a recurring character (overall, season 11 features less of just about every recurring cast member) while still advancing her character. While I would've supported sending Mrs. Moon back to England in the season 9 finale, it no longer fits her character development from this season, so good decision on that angle.

The two surprising decisions from "Analyzed Kiss" continue to have ripple effects here. Roz's new job provides a couple of laughs, with Frasier's mocking of Noel on-air. The farewell dinner is a scene that sadly feels underwritten. It's one of the very last times we'll have the complete KACL team in one room (well, the last time if you include Julia) but it's just not the laugh-a-second occasion I'd expect. I do appreciate Noel's quiet "I will kill you" and Dan Butler gives the Bulldog scenes his all, but that's not really enough to sell them. Edward Hibbert, however, is a class act. While Gil's speech feels like a retread of his material in "The Harassed", he's still my favourite of the bunch.

What disappoints me, though, is to realise that Roz's storyline is not about furthering her career ambitions that have been part of her character for several seasons now. Instead, they're set-up for a Roz vs. Julia plot which I'm uncertain about. As a character moment, it's a bold move, but I think it's ultimately a mistake. While season 10 has portrayed a frosty relationship between Roz and Julia, it has never really suggested to us that she is a damaging person. Indeed, Frasier's analysis of her in both "The Harassed" and "Analyzed Kiss" has suggested otherwise. For Roz to be so biased against a Julia/Frasier relationship that she'd go to Martin and then actively stage an intervention... that's a huge decision. I'm just not sure the series has convincingly sold the necessity of this. This is the move of someone with burgeoning feelings, and that is the only reason for what Roz is doing, aside from authorial incompetence, of course. Gilpin, Grammer, Mahoney and Huffman play the hell out of the final scene, but the drama feels contrived.

Look, I don't want to argue against a writing room decision. People make the wrong choices all the time, and Roz is not immune to that. It can be hard to see a friend engage in a relationship we don't like, and it can be just as stunning to be given an ultimatum by a friend. Frasier and Roz's complicated history amplifies this even further. So, although I find Roz's actions unlikely, and I'm disappointed by how her career choices pan out, I can't fault anything in this episode as impossible. And indeed the first half is quite enjoyable, as are the remaining Daphne/Niles scenes. However the virtue of most "Frasier" season finales, all of which have been equally (or more) dramatic than comedic, is that - with the exception of the flaccid season 8 finale - they're grounded more in character analysis than an outright dramatic cliffhanger. What I see here instead is several episodes' buildup directed primarily at creating a divide between the characters which, although it stems from pre-existing conflicts and past entanglements, seems too sudden and shakily-grounded to be fully believable. The mistakes made are restricted to the last six or seven minutes, but their impact can be felt in pockets of the season. A misstep, but one that at least can be forgiven in season 11.

Rating: 70%


a new position for roz , Aug 26, 2008

Reviewer: Kat from Australia

One of the many reasons i fell in love with Frasier (both sitcom and character) was Frasier's (ultimately, at the end of the day) down to earth, heart of gold. In this episode i found his character to be, well, out of character to be honest. When Roz gave him her ultimatum he ignored her and went to Julia, saying "yes i think i will have some of that cake julia". I was totally surprised at this scene and made me dislike his character. I really thought he would have been more like pushing her out of his apartment and saying they woudl talk about it in the morning or something. i was disappointed with this scene, i didnt really like to see the character of Frasier appear so cold.

Rating: 45%


Good riddance, Mar 08, 2008

Reviewer: Graham Hume from Manchester, England

I have to say that as a whole season 10 was a disappointment, for one thing Daphne's Mother was even more irritating than in the previous seasons, with her constant critiqing of Daphne and snide comments to Niles, she was completly unfunny. Niles and Daphne were @ their funniest when Niles would say something regarding his attraction to Daphne and she was oblivious to it and to replace that with her awful mother was stupid.
I also thought it was ridiculous that Frasier, who had a strong dislike to Julia, was suddenly attracted to her and that when they started dating, Martin decided to go along with Roz's plan to split them up when he didn't really know Julia.
As a whole it was a poor ending to a poor season.

Rating: 48%



Reviewer: Cake for Brains from Manchester, UK

Season 10 has been such a big improvement over Seasons’ 8 and 9 that it was a shame that this season had to conclude in such a weak way, because ‘A New Position to Roz’ fell flat on its face and played out more like a soap opera than a comedy show. Let’s begin by recapping on the events engendered by ‘Analyzed Kiss’, which saw Roz quite her job to take up a position at KPXY and Frasier begin a relationship with co-worker Julia Wilcox. There are very few laughs throughout this season finale in my opinion, and it was crammed full of cringe-worthy out of character moments, most noticeably the monster that Roz transformed into when she propositioned Frasier with an ultimatum. I think that the only part of the central storyline that felt remotely right in the context of the show was Roz showing Noel Shempsky the production ropes; only Patrick Kerr overacts something terrible. I liked Julia’s line though, as she enters on the scene and Roz tells her that she is showing Noel what she does; ‘Is that why he’s on his knees?’. Aside from this there is a very little else to be laughed at here, and even the KACL farewell dinner falls far short of its comedic premise.

Imagine the opportunities that were missed? Bulldog, Noel Gil Chesterton and Kenny all reunited to bid farewell to Roz could have been so funny, but yet the whole sequence was made up of terrible cracks regarding Roz’s sex life. Although it is part of Bulldog’s butch persona to be insensitive and in-your-face, his clichéd attempts to squeeze jokes out of Roz’s sex life felt desperately weak and made me groan. This was made even worse by Noel’s frequent vows to kill Bulldog, and the only real moment that raised a smile was Gil’s gloriously flowery goodbye speech. Elsewhere its all change for Niles and Daphne, and Niles proposes that he wants to have a child, which means that Mrs Moon has to move out. I felt pleased for Niles when he finally stood up to his mother-in-law and told her to pack her bags, but as usual the comedy was drained when the whole thing became deeply ridiculous with Daphne and her mother weeping at the door. However this over-the-top show of dramatics seemed tame when compared to what follows between Roz and Julia.

Over the last decade (believe it or not that is how long Frasier had been on television at this point) we have never had any reason to dislike Roz, but here, she comes across as cold, churlish and annoying as she forces Frasier to choose between Julia and herself, because she thinks Julia is ‘evil’. I have expected everyone to break into song or break out into an enormous fight, because the whole sequence felt contrived and scripted, with dialogue like ‘Tell me now! It’s her or me!’ and ‘I’ll go out of this door and I won’t come back!’ – it was painful. The dialogue felt like it had been lifted from some kind of hammed up soap opera, and ran more like a drama than a sitcom. Frasier reacts to this in a totally callous way too, and ignores her, instead focussing his attention on ‘restaurant cake’. The season ends on a real downer, as Roz dramatically proclaims that ‘KACL is ancient history!’ I felt sorry for Peri Gilpin having to work with such dire material, and felt that the writer was turning Roz’s character into an absolute monster. You didn’t even feel sorry for her when she stormed out of Frasier's apartment. In conclusion then, this episode is a poorly written affair, with terribly bad characterisation that ends this season on a real low.

However, Season 10 on the whole has been mostly enjoyable, and although it still doesn’t come close to capturing the brilliance maintained by the first seven seasons, it has been a big improvement over the previous two in my opinion. Although I didn’t care for many of the story arcs that were introduced in this season, such as the Niles heart surgery trilogy, the Julia character, Daphne’s mother, etc, the season did have its fair share of enjoyable episodes. I found ‘Fathers and Sons’ an absolute classic, with at least another four really good episodes. That’s not to say there weren’t a fair number of clunkers; because ‘Trophy Girlfriend’ and ‘Some Assembly Required’ were glowing examples of the decline Frasier has suffered in quality. However Season 10 is trumped by the proceeding Season 11, and with the departure of certain writers like Saladin K. Patterson and Eric Zicklin being replaced by authors like the mighty Joe Keenan and Christopher Lloyd, Season 11 would prove to be an astonishing revival in quality. Therefore, Season 10 is the best of a bad bunch of seasons, and although it had more decent episodes than Seasons’ 8 and 9, the improvement made by Season 11 is unbelievable.

Rating: 67%


'A New Position For Roz' review, Oct 17, 2005

Reviewer: Jocelyn from London, UK

With the storylines of Roz finding new employment at a rival radio station and Frasier and Julia's new relationship having been set up in a somewhat contrived manner in the previous episode, it falls to this season finale to bring them together in a way that is no less clumsy and out-of-character. While this episode does have it's moments, most notably Niles and Daphne finally deciding to try for children, a lot of it falls strangely flat, not least the KACL team's farewell dinner for Roz which causes her to change her mind about the job and, as first seen in 'The Harassed', continues Bulldog and Noel's cringeworthy fighting over Roz, although the scene is partly redeemed by Gil's speech followed by him downing a glass of wine in one! Apart from this, the only other bits that raise a smile are Mrs Moon's call to Julia on her mobile phone pretending to be Frasier's lover and the much welcome sight of Niles telling his mother-in-law to pack her bags. However, the real problem here is the ridiculous transformation that takes place in Roz's character. Although Roz has had the misfortune to be saddled with numerous poor and humourless storylines since Season 6, her sudden outright hatred of Julia and gleeful attempts to destroy her and Frasier's relationship actually managed to make me hate her character for the first time ever and this storyline culminates in a woefully mismanaged 'cliffhanger' where Roz demands that Frasier choose between her or Julia. All I can say is it's a good thing that Lloyd and Keenan returned to the helm after this episode as I dread to think where this storyline might otherwise have been heading...

Despite a slow start and dire climax, Season 10 showed definite signs of a recovery for 'Frasier'. While it never quite reached the heights of the show's first seven years there was a larger helping of quality episodes than in Season's 8 and 9 and, despite a handful of poorer efforts, there was nothing to match those two season's lowest points.

Although it's since been effortlessly trounced by the resurgent quality of the final season, Season 10 still stands as a marked improvement on it's two predecessors and considering the show had now been running for an impressive ten years that's not too bad at all.

Rating: 68%