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Out With Dad
Episode Details

Written by: Joe Keenan

Directed by: David Lee

Original US airdate: 10th February 2000

Original UK airdate: 14th April 2000

Cast Information
Main Cast
Frasier Crane .... Kelsey Grammer
Niles Crane .... David Hyde Pierce
Martin Crane .... John Mahoney
Daphne Moon .... Jane Leeves
Roz Doyle .... Peri Gilpin
Recurring Cast
Guest Cast
Emily .... Marg Helgenberger
Edward .... Brian Bedford
Helen .... Mary Louise Wilson
Guest Callers

Episode Synopsis

It's Valentine's Day, and Roz and Daphne are planning to watch sad chick movies as Roz doesn't have a date and Donny had to fly to Florida for his grandmother's funeral. Frasier is planning to go to the opera with Niles as Mel is out of town but when he arrives, he is on the phone to Mel who has changed her mind and wants to spend time with Niles. He asks Frasier to give up his opera ticket for him and Mel but Frasier refuses. He still wants to go to the opera because there is a lady there he has taken quite a liking to and wants to ask her out, so he asks his father to go with him because he doesn't want to go alone or with a woman. Reluctantly, Martin agrees but finds all operas stupid as they are based on improbable events. Finally Frasier's mystery woman shows up and Martin is in agreement about how good looking she is. However, when Martin waves at her and her mother, it is her mother who waves back obviously thinking Martin has taken a liking to her - which Martin is appalled at. At the interval, Frasier finally meets up with his mystery woman, who he learns is called Emily, and her mother Helen. Frasier leaves Martin and Helen to talk together as they get some champagne. Helen asks Martin out for a date but he is hesitant and the reason for this is he is ..., as Helen finishes his sentence with "Gay?". Martin says yes, seeing this as a way out of his date, and thinks nothing more of it. Frasier and Emily return, and announces Emily is joining him for a nightcap after the opera. The second half begins and they return to their seats, at which point Helen mentions that Martin was gay to Emily, and she thinks she has the perfect date for Martin and will take him along when she goes to Frasier's....

Frasier returns to his apartment and throws Roz out as Emily is coming soon, and when she does arrive, she has also brought her uncle Edward as a possible date for Martin. Frasier is amazed at this but plays along with Martin's deception. Everything Martin then says to Edward seems to indicate he is interested in him, but when Frasier gets Martin alone in the kitchen he says he knows about his lie so Martin believes he should gay it up a bit so Emily doesn't discover he is straight. However, Martin gets a bit under the collar when Edward tells Martin he is gay - with his hand on Martin's knee! So much so, in fact, that when Edward asks if Martin is free for dinner sometime, he says that he is already seeing someone. Niles arrives at Frasier's at that moment - and Martin announces that this is his boyfriend!! Niles is aghast at this but goes along with it through gritted teeth. Frasier, however, is very embarrassed and says the only way out of this situation is for Niles to dump Dad! This he does in spectacular fashion, but when Edward wants to leave and Emily is his ride home, Martin offers to take him so Frasier and Emily can spend some time alone together.

Episode Title Cards
  • Out With Dad

Episode Highlights

- Daphne is complaining that even being engaged doesn't guarantee a date on Valentine's Day:
Daphne: Donny had to fly out to Florida - his grandmother. She'd do anything to come between us.
Martin: What'd she do this time?
Daphne: She died.

- Martin complains that operas are stupid, so Frasier tells him the plot of 'Rigoletto':
Martin: So a cursed hunchback is dating his daughter - nothing screwy so far (!)

- After Helen discovers Martin is 'gay':
Helen: I'm sorry I was so forward. It's just it's sometimes so hard to meet nice men.
Martin: Tell me!

- Martin offers Edward some wine to drink:
Edward: Why not a beer?
Martin: A man after my own heart!

- The look on Martin's face as he finds out that Edward is gay with his hand on Martin's knee.

- Martin is feeling a little uncomfortable around Edward:
Martin: What if he asks me on a date?
Frasier: I've got news for you - you're on a date!

- Niles is aghast at having to play Martin's 'boyfriend':
Niles: They think the best I can do is an old man with a cane!


Frasier Online Episode Review

A knockout show, really. Borrowing heavily from 'The Matchmaker' (also by this episode's writer Joe Keenan), it is another in 'Frasier's cannon of shows that turn simple situations into very funny ones through a series of misunderstandings and coincidences. The thought of Martin being gay is hilarious enough, but to see John Mahoney play it for everything he's got (and then some) is a great asset to this episode. The excellent twist at the end really made the episode though - where Niles had to pretend to be Martin's boyfriend. Although not quite as good as The Matchmaker, due to a amusing but not outstanding first half, this is still a very good episode that shows how that, even this late in the show's career, the team behind it can still create brilliant episodes.


85 %

Latest Viewer Episode Review

Avg. Viewer Review: 90.4%
Total Number of Reviews: 13

Will you be my Ballantyne?, May 17, 2013

Reviewer: Sammy J from Melbourne, Australia

"How many straight men remember Renata Tebaldi?" Indeed.

The much-publicised second act of "Frasier"'s gay trilogy, "Out with Dad" is a superb spin on "The Matchmaker". True, where that episode was a flawless farce in which every line was hysterical, this episode takes a while to build to the hilarity. Nevertheless, it's enjoyable from start to finish.

The anguished Niles, denied anywhere for Valentine's Day except the Salad Experience, delivers one of my favourite lines from the show: " May your opera box be full of cellophane crinklers and a stage swarming with stand-bys!". Kelsey Grammer also has a lot of fun; I particularly enjoy his fake snooty laughter after telling Daphne the truth about the situation.

But this is very much John Mahoney's episode, he really is a scene-stealer. Frasier and Martin spend a night at the opera (with a surprisingly small appearance by the lovely Mary-Louise Wilson), and it's quite nice to see Martin in this environment. (The series usually mines more comedy out of Frasier being the fish out of water.) What I appreciate is that season 7 Martin - the man who organised a birthday surprise for his son a few weeks ago - would rather feign enthusiasm than simply gruffly complain.

Back at the apartment, things get out of control quickly, and it's astonishingly well written. Martin's inadvertent flirtations, Daphne's quick and giggling exit, and the masterful interplay between Niles and Martin. (Where last time Maris was the unseen interloper, now it's Mel.) The resolution is really very sweet. Edward is too kind of a character to be simply thrown out by the comedy. Instead, all of the characters realise the seriousness of their behaviour. The sequence where Edward and Martin bond over the things they do for their children is genuinely affecting.

Ultimately, "Out with Dad" is surprisingly different to its predecessor, but really just as amusing. It may not have that episode's mercenary wit (the situation is treated more seriously overall) but it makes up for it in quick-thinking dialogue and character interaction.

Rating: 97%


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