Who's singing?

[Patrick]

Who's singing "vissi D'arte" on "First date" ep. 5-20? We know it's neither Renata Tebaldi nor Joan Sutherland but I can't find the name of the singer on the Internet. Only clue is that she's not as famous as those two but that's pretty meager to go on.

[Frasiertime]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_opera_so ... f_Frasier#

[Patrick]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_opera_song_was_playing_during_the_final_scene_of_First_Date_episode_twenty_in_season_five_of_Frasier#

I see, thank you. Still, Mirella Freni is extremely famous (her rendition of Mimi from La Boheme is legendary) , so Daphne's remark doesn't make much sense.

[Frasiertime]

Good point and since Daphne said "you don't live with your brother for 5 yrs. without learning a thing or two about opera divas", I guess it was really Frasier's opinion

A little trivia....In Fortysomething, Niles said vissi d'arte was the aria he would choose as one of the 3 things he could take with him on a desert island. Daphne really got it right with her choice of music for the evening

[Patrick]

Good point and since Daphne said "you don't live with your brother for 5 yrs. without learning a thing or two about opera divas", I guess it was really Frasier's opinion

A little trivia....In Fortysomething, Niles said vissi d'arte was the aria he would choose as one of the 3 things he could take with him on a desert island. Daphne really got it right with her choice of music for the evening

And yet at the same time she can't play the piano, after NINE YEARS of lessons. Usually people who can't play an instrument are tone death, if not death or hard of hearing. So that's a little inconsistent to me, but I am afraid, I am just quibbling over minutia here.

[CatNamedRudy]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

[Patrick]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

You mean "saxophone", don't you?

[Patrick]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

There's a difference between "a while" and NINE YEARS! And note that Daphne was still willing to learn, so she obviously wasn't frustrated enough. No, to me it just looks like she's tone deaf and therefore can't correct herself when she hits the wrong key. When I play the piano I don't have to look at my hands to know when I made a mistake, a person who's tone deaf does and can hit the wrong key many times without even noticing it. It's hard to make any progress under these conditions. Same thing about the color blind, they can't choose their own clothes without looking like circus clowns.

[CatNamedRudy]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

You mean "saxophone", don't you?

I always say saxamaphone. (it's a Simpsons thing) It's like "macamadamia" nuts. (which are in truth, macadamia nuts)

[CatNamedRudy]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

There's a difference between "a while" and NINE YEARS! And note that Daphne was still willing to learn, so she obviously wasn't frustrated enough. No, to me it just looks like she's tone deaf and therefore can't correct herself when she hits the wrong key. When I play the piano I don't have to look at my hands to know when I made a mistake, a person who's tone deaf does and can hit the wrong key many times without even noticing it. It's hard to make any progress under these conditions. Same thing about the color blind, they can't choose their own clothes without looking like circus clowns.

I still disagree. Just because she can't play piano does not mean she is tone deaf. A lot of people who aren't coordinated enough to play an instrument aren't tone deaf. And Daphne knew when she hit a wrong note. She stopped every time she hit the wrong note and started over.

I can't play very many sports well but it doesn't mean I don't understand them! It's the same thing as far as I'm concerned. Being unable to play an instrument does not mean one cannot understand music.

[Moon-Crane]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

You mean "saxophone", don't you?

I always say saxamaphone. (it's a Simpsons thing) It's like "macamadamia" nuts. (which are in truth, macadamia nuts)

You know the saxamaphone, Patrick. It's a sophistimacated doowhackey. Not to mixed up with what banjoologists or tromboners play.

[CatNamedRudy]

[Moon-Crane]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

There's a difference between "a while" and NINE YEARS! And note that Daphne was still willing to learn, so she obviously wasn't frustrated enough. No, to me it just looks like she's tone deaf and therefore can't correct herself when she hits the wrong key. When I play the piano I don't have to look at my hands to know when I made a mistake, a person who's tone deaf does and can hit the wrong key many times without even noticing it. It's hard to make any progress under these conditions. Same thing about the color blind, they can't choose their own clothes without looking like circus clowns.

I still disagree. Just because she can't play piano does not mean she is tone deaf. A lot of people who aren't coordinated enough to play an instrument aren't tone deaf. And Daphne knew when she hit a wrong note. She stopped every time she hit the wrong note and started over.

I can't play very many sports well but it doesn't mean I don't understand them! It's the same thing as far as I'm concerned. Being unable to play an instrument does not mean one cannot understand music.

Yes, i never really got the impression that Daphne was meant to be tone deaf as she knew immediately that she was making a mistake when trying to follow her exercises. As mentioned, tone deaf people often don't realise they are just that (hence the early comedy installments of the worldwide X-Factor auditions). Daphne simply appeared to be uncoordinated. I have friends who can hold a decent singing note yet can't play a musical instrument for toffee.

[Moon-Crane]

:lol:

I have a feeling The Simpsons might get lost in translation with stuff like that. I've seen clips of French dub episodes but i've no idea how things like the saxamaphone translate

[Patrick]

:lol:

I have a feeling The Simpsons might get lost in translation with stuff like that. I've seen clips of French dub episodes but i've no idea how things like the saxamaphone translate

I wouldn't know, I don't watch French dubbed series or films or anything for that matter. I don't need to. Of course, up until now I thought I wouldn't need to make that very noticeable fact so painfully obvious either, but life is full of surprises, not all of them good.

[Patrick]

Not true. I have a very good ear and I can't play piano for shit. I took lessons for a while but it just frustrated me so much I quit. It's because I cannot make my hands do two different things at the same time. I can play the saxamaphone though.

You mean "saxophone", don't you?

I always say saxamaphone. (it's a Simpsons thing) It's like "macamadamia" nuts. (which are in truth, macadamia nuts)

Sounds like fun.

[Moon-Crane]

I wouldn't know, I don't watch French dubbed series or films or anything for that matter. I don't need to. Of course, up until now I thought I wouldn't need to make that very noticeable fact so painfully obvious either, but life is full of surprises, not all of them good.

Some things about you are painfully obvious, however. Such is life.

[Patrick]

I wouldn't know, I don't watch French dubbed series or films or anything for that matter. I don't need to. Of course, up until now I thought I wouldn't need to make that very noticeable fact so painfully obvious either, but life is full of surprises, not all of them good.

Some things about you are painfully obvious, however. Such is life.

Casting a wide net are we? People on a fishing expedition usually are.

[Moon-Crane]

Not fishing at all. Simply calling you out on being an obnoxious idiot without placing the thread in jeopardy of having to being locked by Stu. I thought your snarky retort summed up the personality i've witnessed in posts towards a few others around the board. Keep it up for all i care as i know to ignore you forthwith.

If you think your post:

I wouldn't know, I don't watch French dubbed series or films or anything for that matter. I don't need to. Of course, up until now I thought I wouldn't need to make that very noticeable fact so painfully obvious either, but life is full of surprises, not all of them good.

isn't obnoxious then you're also ignorant to boot. There was no personal attack on you so i don't get the condescending tone. Costs nothing to be civil. The board's supposed to be fun.

Anyweay, let the thread get back on topic and save Stu some work.

[Forever Jung]

I wouldn't know, I don't watch French dubbed series or films or anything for that matter. I don't need to. Of course, up until now I thought I wouldn't need to make that very noticeable fact so painfully obvious either, but life is full of surprises, not all of them good.

I'm sure that MC was not trying to infere that you need to watch dubbed shows (your English is a hell of a lot better than my French, but for that matter, Scoobie's French is probably better than my French ) but I assume (as I imagine most would) that dubbed episodes on TV are the most accessable to you.

I don't know if the French have a different word for Saxaphone (i'll consult with Scoobie later lol), but if they do then a joke like Sax-a-maphone possibly wouldn't travel very well.

Besides, I don't know why anyone would need a dubbed episode. As I recently pointed out, we took most of your language, cleaned it up, turned it into real words, put it in some sort of cohesive order, and now even a child could follow it

BTW, how accurate do you find the French used on the show?

[Patrick]

I wouldn't know, I don't watch French dubbed series or films or anything for that matter. I don't need to. Of course, up until now I thought I wouldn't need to make that very noticeable fact so painfully obvious either, but life is full of surprises, not all of them good.

I'm sure that MC was not trying to infere that you need to watch dubbed shows (your English is a hell of a lot better than my French, but for that matter, Scoobie's French is probably better than my French ) but I assume (as I imagine most would) that dubbed episodes on TV are the most accessable to you.

I don't know if the French have a different word for Saxaphone (i'll consult with Scoobie later lol), but if they do then a joke like Sax-a-maphone possibly wouldn't travel very well.

Besides, I don't know why anyone would need a dubbed episode. As I recently pointed out, we took most of your language, cleaned it up, turned it into real words, put it in some sort of cohesive order, and now even a child could follow it

BTW, how accurate do you find the French used on the show?

Let me put it this way... I had an uncle who was born deaf and though he learned sign language very soon, he didn't start to get serious lessons of lip reading as well as vocal language until late in life (around twenty). He was brilliant though, probably a genius in his own right. You see with his huge handicap and general lack of knowledge about things we take for granted, he struck out on his own when he was around 18, in Paris, no less. He taught himself to be a very good tailor and made some money, by the time he was thirty he had a house in the Bois de Vincenne, a posh quarter of Paris, and started living with a guy. So that's how his parents, IE my grandparents learned that he was gay. I was a small child back then so I never thought much of it until I was old enough to meet imbeciles up to their gills in prejudices. Anyway, my uncle was always impeccably dressed and well groomed, he had a receding hair line and as Niles puts it a little bit of Frasier's (KG's) "fat face", and when Frasier speaks French, the resemblance between the two of them, my long dead uncle and him, is just UNCANNY!