Bad Acting

[jrsightes]

I've noticed some examples of exceptionally bad acting (by guest stars) on Frasier, which stick out like sore thumbs when juxtaposed with the masterful performances of the main cast. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed any. To get the ball rolling:

In "Rooms with a View," after Daphne smashes the vending machine:
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Orderly: Do I need to call security here?

Martin: Uh, no, it's alright. I'm sorry about this--uh--kind of a tough time.

Orderly: Alright, but keep this area clear until I can get it cleaned

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The orderly sounds just like a kid in a middle-school play.

[CatNamedRudy]

Every second that Camille Grammer speaks in Halloween is horrible acting.

John Glenn in Docu.Drama is pretty awful and Dr. Phil is horrendous!

[jrsightes]

Every second that Camille Grammer speaks in Halloween is horrible acting.

John Glenn in Docu.Drama is pretty awful and Dr. Phil is horrendous!

As with most beautiful women on this show, I never really noticed Camille Grammer's acting. Too distracted by her looks.

Agree 100% about Dr. Phil, but I thought Glenn was decent for a non-actor. He did a good job with the little monologue about the UFO's or whatever he saw while in space. I've seen much, much worse acting by celebrity guest stars on other shows.

[seledoux]

Linda Hamilton in Odd Man Out [season 4 finale]. When she says "Oh goodness. Don't I just sound like the perfect snob?" it is laughable [and cringe-worthy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4LM1fUCW18#t=17m43s

[Mr Blue Sky]

Every second that Camille Grammer speaks in Halloween is horrible acting.

John Glenn in Docu.Drama is pretty awful and Dr. Phil is horrendous!

Don't forget Bill Gates!

[jrsightes]

Every second that Camille Grammer speaks in Halloween is horrible acting.

John Glenn in Docu.Drama is pretty awful and Dr. Phil is horrendous!

Don't forget Bill Gates!

Bill Gates is so awkward and unnatural when he's not acting, it's no wonder his acting is awkward and unnatural.

[Karin]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

[jrsightes]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Agreed. To me, she's the only weak link in the main cast. She has quite a few bad-acting moments like that one.

[Karin]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Agreed. To me, she's the only weak link in the main cast. She has quite a few bad-acting moments like that one.

For the most part I really like her and I can't think of too many moments like that. For me, Jane Leeves has far more bad-acting moments than her, especially in the last 3 seasons.

[seledoux]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Agreed. To me, she's the only weak link in the main cast. She has quite a few bad-acting moments like that one.

For the most part I really like her and I can't think of too many moments like that. For me, Jane Leeves has far more bad-acting moments than her, especially in the last 3 seasons.

Absolutely, 100% agree with this.

I love both Peri Gilpin and Jane Leeves and couldn't imagine anyone replacing either of them, but for my money Jane has flubbed many more line deliveries and physical nuances than Peri has. I think Roz [and Peri's portrayal of her] is an essential binding factor in the main cast.

[jrsightes]

I'm having trouble thinking of an example of Jane delivering a line poorly.

As for Roz, I think she's absolutely disposable. You could have written her out of the show without changing the comedic formula at all.

[seledoux]

I'm having trouble thinking of an example of Jane delivering a line poorly.

As for Roz, I think she's absolutely disposable. You could have written her out of the show without changing the comedic formula at all.

I'm on the first season again in my approximately 800th viewing of Frasier, but when I come around to the final few seasons I'll link some examples. As I said, I think Jane Leeves is wonderful, but occasionally she flops a line or two.

I think Roz being a staple was necessary to better offset and complement just how nutty the Crane brothers are. If the show focused on what went on inside the apartment and Frasier's social life with just cursory or transitional scenes at the station, the show would start to feel old.

[Mr Blue Sky]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Surely the dire material has to shoulder some of the blame in that episode...

[Moon-Crane]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Surely the dire material has to shoulder some of the blame in that episode...

I'd say so.

[Moon-Crane]

That scene towards the end of Death And The Dog, where they skip off to get the ice-cream, bugs me a little.

[CatNamedRudy]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Surely the dire material has to shoulder some of the blame in that episode...

Yeah. 99.9% of that episode makes me cringe!

[Karin]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Surely the dire material has to shoulder some of the blame in that episode...

Oh, absolutely. "Whoever wrote this episode should DIE!" But there's something about Gilpin's acting in that scene that doesn't sit well with me.

[Mr Blue Sky]

The way Peri Gilpin delivers her ultimatum to Frasier at the end of A New Position For Roz always makes me cringe.

Surely the dire material has to shoulder some of the blame in that episode...

Oh, absolutely. "Whoever wrote this episode should DIE!" But there's something about Gilpin's acting in that scene that doesn't sit well with me.

It's weird because Lori Kirkland has a pretty damn good track record writing some of S6's finest episodes in particular. A New Position For Roz, however, was a real low point. I'm not surprised Peri forgot how to act in that episode, Roz was so out of character it was like watching a different show. An infinitely worse one.

[1901]

Not really bad acting just a little thing that makes me cringe is the one where marty has that 'relationship' through the telescope. It's the ending when she knocks on the door it finishes where he he looks up into the camera and says 'oh hello', it's the looking up bit I don't like, how big is this woman? I know he's a small bloke but if the camera is her eyes, then she must be about six an half foot.

[seledoux]

Not really bad acting just a little thing that makes me cringe is the one where marty has that 'relationship' through the telescope. It's the ending when she knocks on the door it finishes where he he looks up into the camera and says 'oh hello', it's the looking up bit I don't like, how big is this woman? I know he's a small bloke but if the camera is her eyes, then she must be about six an half foot.

I totally agree. We should create a bad directing thread. Like when 7 people are crammed around half of a tiny table at the Cafe.. Come on.

[Niles_E_Coyote]

Kirby and Rosie Perez' performances always stood out as sub-par to me. Linda Hamilton's was a bit weak as well. I could nit pick a few more performances, Bill Gates, the mafia don seeking out Frasier's help, Dr.Phil...the list goes on. It's easy, if not cheap to pick out the bad performances in a show so rich with fine acting. Still, sometimes it's hard to ignore. That whole "Daphne breaking the vending machine" moment is possibly the wost acted sequence in the entire series (as i mentioned in an earlier post)

[barnaclelapse]

I thought John Glenn did okay.

Michael Keaton will always be one of my favorite celebrity guest stars. He always struck me as one of the few to take it as a serious acting gig. The same goes for Patrick Stewart.

[James S]

The same goes for Patrick Stewart.

"The chair.... hilarious!"

"Noooooooh!"

"Then you'll fit right in!"

Not funny lines by themselves but in context and delivered the way they were by PS, just terrific!

[Rozzas]

For me it's the Russian guy selling the dodgy caviar in "Roe to Perdition." He's so bad - especially his body language - he totally stunk out his few scenes.

[CraneParty1901]

As bad as some of those are, I cannot believe that Clive has come out of this unscathed. His "lovely view" line was the worst cringe I ever got from the show. Especially since he doesn't even look at it. And don't chalk it up to an awkward moment between two ex-lovers either. His accent is contrived and his delivery is often worse. I hate the episode just because of him. It was rare, though, for guest actors to come on to the show and not fit in with the cast. Sherry was another example. I hated her. It was amazing when an actor would come in for one episode and join the family as though their past experiences were real. I'm reminded of David Ogden Stiers who played Leland, Hester's assistant. He fit in very well, an obvious requirement for the part, but nonetheless put Clive, Sherry and others to shame.