The Last Frasier Episode You Watched.

[Taliesin]

Thanks..other than the Dick Van Dyke Show ...there has never been a more consistently funny series before or since. I watch it almost every day and there is always a line or series of events that makes me smile. And, isn't that what comedy is supposed to do? I've had a rotten year. And, I know this is a a U.K. based forum and I can certainly appreciate how annoyed you must have been by the Moon accents. I'm from Boston, MA. Yeah..we don't all sound like the Kennedy's. In a very cranky world, it's nice to be able to retreat to Seattle for a few minutes.

[Moon-Crane]

Welcome to the board.

The Moon family accents never bothered me. I still think there was a little too much of Gertrude and Simon during those later seasons, but i thought Millicent Martin and Anthony LaPaglia played the roles very well.

[tenpercenter]

darkside of the moon

one of the very best.
this is where the show really blends seriousness with humour superbly, before it jumped the shark

the whole scene form when daphne is massaging frasier to where niles says have you done something diffrent with your har?
are some of the most powerful scens in any sitcom

5/5

[Taliesin]

I love the scene in Something about Dr. Mary. It's KG at some of his best. He's role-playing with Niles. I have actually used the saying in my real life "a cat can have kittens in an oven, but that don't make them biscuits" Yes, it did jump the shark, but even in the latter seasons it's better than most series on their best days.

[Taliesin]

And, Leap Day. So many scenes that I could go on and on about. Brilliant.

[Taliesin]

I agree about Darkside of The Moon. I think one had to suspend disbelief in a lot of the series for a lot of reasons, I mean you didn't need to be a rocket scientist to know that DHP was gay in real life and he wasn't very convincing as a man in love with a woman. On first viewing, I'll be honest, it annoyed me. Now, I just think it was a great love story. Even, though, they had most unconvincing coupling of all time. John Mahoney is gay and he pulled it off. There is just something very endearing about all of it.

[CatNamedRudy]

I love the scene in Something about Dr. Mary. It's KG at some of his best. He's role-playing with Niles. I have actually used the saying in my real life "a cat can have kittens in an oven, but that don't make them biscuits" Yes, it did jump the shark, but even in the latter seasons it's better than most series on their best days.

See, I don't think Frasier ever even came close to jumping the shark. The quality went down for 3 seasons but it didn't become unwatchable in any sense of the word. (a few episodes are unwatchable but there were a few of those in the early seaons too.)

In order for a show to "jump the shark" it has to just become horrible and so insanely ridiculous that you just can't stand it anymore. ie: Fonzie jumps the shark and all of Happy Days turns into a giant pile of crap.

[Moon-Crane]

I love the scene in Something about Dr. Mary. It's KG at some of his best. He's role-playing with Niles. I have actually used the saying in my real life "a cat can have kittens in an oven, but that don't make them biscuits" Yes, it did jump the shark, but even in the latter seasons it's better than most series on their best days.

See, I don't think Frasier ever even came close to jumping the shark. The quality went down for 3 seasons but it didn't become unwatchable in any sense of the word. (a few episodes are unwatchable but there were a few of those in the early seaons too.)

In order for a show to "jump the shark" it has to just become horrible and so insanely ridiculous that you just can't stand it anymore. ie: Fonzie jumps the shark and all of Happy Days turns into a giant pile of crap.

And even in terms of Happy Days the term makes no sense. That episode was the opener of S5, and there were shedloads of great episodes in the six seasons(!) after that. It really lost it years after the shark episode. Makes for a good catchphrase for people nowadays, i suppose. Many people tend to use it in the same way Alanis Morissette uses the term 'ironic'.

No way Frasier ever went completely off it as a show, though.

[CatNamedRudy]

I do think the show went downhill after the shark jumping stunt but Happy Days didn't really get bad until after Ron Howard left. When the show became the Fonzie, Chachi and Al Show it started to suck hard.

[Taliesin]

Understand, if I'm watching Frasier..I tend towards the later seasons. It's like I prefer the later years of Cheers, and most would say the best ones were the earlier episodes. I'm sorry, but I think Kirstie Alley was way more funny than Diane. And, the show became more absurd and humorous. Like with Seinfield. they didn't have to worry anymore about ratings..so they just went with it. I don't like the earlier seasons of Frasier. It seems forced. Like they were trying to be something..an ensemble. The writers to their credit..finally recognized the humor was in the house. I'm also happy (not to bum anyone out, but I have Stage 4 cancer) and to argue the relative merits of comedy shows makes me laugh and I love a good critical argument. And, yeah..Happy Days went way downhill after Ron Howard left. Don't even get me started when they killed Edith in All in The Family.

[CatNamedRudy]

Understand, if I'm watching Frasier..I tend towards the later seasons. It's like I prefer the later years of Cheers, and most would say the best ones were the earlier episodes. I'm sorry, but I think Kirstie Alley was way more funny than Diane. And, the show became more absurd and humorous. Like with Seinfield. they didn't have to worry anymore about ratings..so they just went with it. I don't like the earlier seasons of Frasier. It seems forced. Like they were trying to be something..an ensemble. The writers to their credit..finally recognized the humor was in the house. I'm also happy (not to bum anyone out, but I have Stage 4 cancer) and to argue the relative merits of comedy shows makes me laugh and I love a good critical argument. And, yeah..Happy Days went way downhill after Ron Howard left. Don't even get me started when they killed Edith in All in The Family.

What do you consider the "later years" of Frasier? I think Frasier's best seasons were 3-6. Maybe I'd include 7 in there as well. 1 and 2 were good and contain some very good episodes though.

And I agree about Cheers. The first 2 seasons of Cheers have some good episodes but the best were yet to come. Season 5 in fact contains my favorite of all Cheers episodes and seasons 10 and 11 are awesome. I much prefer Kirstie Alley over Shelly Long too.

[Allison Chains]

The Ann that came to dinner 9/10

Frasier: "Scandinavian scheister, cold hearted, glad handed, highway robber, phoney, big tooth smiling, son of a b**ch insurance man!"

Best Line Ever!!!

[CatNamedRudy]

To Thine Old Self Be True 8/10

This episode grew on me over the years. The only thing that still bugs me only bugs me because I know better. Handcuff keys are pretty universal and Marty probably still had several of them hanging around so getting the cuffs off wouldn't have been any big problem.

I love Frasier kicking the head of lettuce back at Regan and this is also the only episode where I find anything likable about Mel.

[CatNamedRudy]

The Ann that came to dinner 9/10

Frasier: "Scandinavian scheister, cold hearted, glad handed, highway robber, phoney, big tooth smiling, son of a b**ch insurance man!"

Best Line Ever!!!

I can't stand that episode.

[Allison Chains]

The Ann that came to dinner 9/10

Frasier: "Scandinavian scheister, cold hearted, glad handed, highway robber, phoney, big tooth smiling, son of a b**ch insurance man!"

Best Line Ever!!!

I can't stand that episode.

Why is that?

[Taliesin]

Because, it was awful. Cringe worthy. I don't remember laughing once during that episode and it's a skipper for me. There are some episodes no matter how many times I watch them still elicit a chuckle. That is not one of them. 11 years there aren't that many that I skip. There is at least usually a sub plot that makes me hold interest. To the earlier poster..one of my favorite Cheers episodes of all time was when Norm was painting the house of Rebecca's crush..the rich guy, and all the ruses he had to do to extricate himself from the situation. It's people in self-deprecating situations..the absurdity of the human condition that we laugh at..because they aren't laughing at us..they are laughing with us..and for all of Frasier's snobbery...KG or at least the writers understood...he was incredibly flawed. And, incredibly goofy. And, stumbled. And, the thing about this show above all others...they NEVER talked down to the audience..they just assumed we were in on the joke. And, understood the cultural references and insider quips. You have no idea how many people I talk to who think Everybody Loves Raymond is funny. And, because of it..we have great shows like Modern Family. etc. That don't talk down to the audience. Which predates Frasier actually, but still. And BTW..I actually did say the other day to someone...a cat can have kittens in the oven, but that don't make them biscuits" knowing full well, they would just think I was wise.

[CatNamedRudy]

I cannot stand the character of Ann. She's annoying and obnoxious and I find nothing funny or likable about that character.

I think Everybody Loves Raymond is funny. I always fail to understand why that's a bad thing with so many people. Same with Friends. It's like sometimes Frasier fans think if you like Frasier you can't like any other sitcoms. If you don't like a show like Everybody Loves Raymond, that's fine but to say that if you like Frasier you couldn't find something like Raymond funny is an insult. I don't get the raves about Modern Family. Plenty of other people (almost all of my friends in fact) find it to be the best show currently on TV but not me. Does that mean it's not funny? No. It just means I don't find it all that funny.

[Allison Chains]

I agree with you on Ann. I can't stand her either but Frasier's reactions to her are hilarious (at least to me) so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one

[Seattle's Best Moon]

I absolutely love Frasier. I am currently watching season 6, in which Frasier is mostly unemployed. In episode 16: "Decoys", just after Donny wins the beach house for Niles in the divorce settlement, I love the play that they all do when Niles is attempting to set up Donny and Roz, so he can finally be with Daphney. Love it!!!!

[CatNamedRudy]

Miss Right Now 8/10

I love this whole story arc. And Kelsey with whipped cream all over his chest doesn't hurt either!

[woggle]

There playing our song 4/5

Niles - " the trombone frightens me !" hehe

How come everytime i watch an episode on comedy central it always seems to be the last one i watched when i pop on a frasier dvd all well this one still makes me laff thou not as much as ham radio which i think i'll make a re-visit to later after work

[Allison Chains]

There playing our song 4/5

Niles - " the trombone frightens me !" hehe

How come everytime i watch an episode on comedy central it always seems to be the last one i watched when i pop on a frasier dvd all well this one still makes me laff thou not as much as ham radio which i think i'll make a re-visit to later after work

Love Ham Radio. That one is a classic

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[woggle]

Morning becomes entertainment 3/5

So so for mr thou do love when Roz turns up at the studio sick and Frsier shakes her ' pull yourself together roz!!" lol and then he asks if he can keep the suit at least ..that always makes me titter .

[tenpercenter]

this is a great ep

bebe is great as always and frasier and niles having the heart to heart is good

4/5

[CatNamedRudy]

The Love You Fake. 7/10

Not the best episode in the world but I like Cora and Marty together. That was a missed opportunity for the writers.